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Leído sobre el proyecto Triple. Creo que aquello es *Google respuesta actual a este
asunto.

Marina

En *Fri, *Aug 18, 2017 en 11:56 PM, <yogesh.dahiya@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

> *Ya derecho. Pero al menos lo pueden probar dice para próximo 2 versiones. Si su
> participación de mercado está cayendo entonces inverso atrás a sistema actual.
>
> Por dar opción para fabricar para alterar el OS están retrasando seguridad
> *patches. Quién padece en "guerra capital"? Usuario de fin.
>
> Porque el fabricante no proporciona actualiza puntualmente, todo el mundo lo sabe.
>
>
>
>
>
> En viernes, 18 agosto 2017 20:31:01 *UTC+5:30, Marina *Cuello escribió:
>>
>> Uno podría pensar que han bastante de una participación de mercado bien ahora para probarlo pero...
>>
>> Pienso que saben más sobre lo que yendo en que lo que sé. Así que no pienso soy cualificado de ser contra *Google decisiones :)
>>
>> Marina
>>
>> En *Thu, *Aug 17, 2017 en 11:13 PM, <yogesh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>>
>>>
>>> La manera única *Google podría imitar aquello es si no dejan el *OEMs
>>>> y Transportistas para cambiar cualquier cosa en las versiones de *Android embarcan sus
>>>> dispositivos con.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bien *Google tendría que tomar arriesga. No deja fabricante para alterar es
>>> base *android. Dijiste que la mayoría de OEM no utilizará *Android. Qué  hacen?
>>>
>>> Todo el mundo sabe lo que pasó a *Symbian (*Nokia), *Bada (*Samung),
>>> *Blackberry. *Android Es en demanda. Y nadie lo puede reemplazar al menos no en
>>> otros 10 años.
>>>
>>> No sé sobre "cosa" de Marketing. Pero sé lo que pasó a otro
>>> OS. Qué es vuestras opiniones sobre él?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> En viernes, 18 agosto 2017 00:54:20 *UTC+5:30, Marina *Cuello escribió:
>>>>
>>>> La diferencia, creo, es más en la madurez del hardware.
>>>>
>>>> En el PC/*laptop mundo, hay ya muchos estándares en relación
>>>> en cómo las interfaces de hardware son hechas. La mayoría de dispositivos son mayoritariamente igual,
>>>> o al menos "tiene que" *respond a las mismas interfaces, así que sus conductores son
>>>> la cosa única que necesita ser añadió. Y las Ventanas en teléfonos es vendida sólo en
>>>> unos cuantos dispositivos; la relación es más similar a *iPhone/*iOs que a qué
>>>> *Android el mercado es y no es comparable.
>>>>
>>>> La manera única *Google podría imitar aquello es si no dejan el *OEMs
>>>> y Transportistas para cambiar cualquier cosa en las versiones de *Android embarcan sus
>>>> dispositivos con.
>>>>
>>>> Si podrían intentar aplicar que, la mayoría de *OEMs decidiría no para utilizar
>>>> *Android, porque Quieren hacer las cosas diferentes *visually, y porque
>>>> NECESITAN a *optimise material en relación con su hardware.
>>>>
>>>> La solución *Google encontró es para poner más y más funcionalidad al
>>>> *Google Servicios de Juego *app y otro independiente *apps. Aquella manera a veces
>>>> pueden forzar cambios en la mayoría de dispositivos. Aquello es el más cercano pueden conseguir a un
>>>>  "OTA" actualiza sin *alienating el *OEMs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> En *Wed, *Aug 16, 2017 en 10:46 PM, <yogesh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> 1) *Android la liberación actualiza.
>>>>> 2) el Fabricante altera aquellos actualiza.  (Naturalmente *Android nivel
>>>>> de hardware sacado en *Android 8)
>>>>>
>>>>> Por qué puede no *Google liberar todo actualiza *via OTA justo como Microsoft hace
>>>>> puesto que su PC y sistemas Móviles?
>>>>>
>>>>> *Android Es muy maduro por ahora. *Billions De los usuarios están utilizándolo pero no tiene el OTA actualiza característica.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Android El Requisito es menos que 1 GB. Pero nuestro 4GB *handset consigue viejo en
>>>>> un o dos año. Porque el Fabricante no libera Nuevo *android versión
>>>>> en dispositivos viejos.
>>>>>
>>>>> Puede no *Google solucionar este problema?
>>>>>
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Read about project Treble. I believe that's Google's current answer to this
issue.

Marina

On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:56 PM, <yogesh.dahiya@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Ya right. But at least they can try it say for next 2 versions. If their
> market share is falling then reverse back to current system.
>
> By giving option to manufacture to alter the OS they are delaying security
> patches. Who suffers in "capital war"? End user.
>
> Because manufacturer doesn't provide updates on time, everyone knows it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 18 August 2017 20:31:01 UTC+5:30, Marina Cuello wrote:
>>
>> One could think that they have enough of a market share right now to try
>> it but...
>>
>> I think they know more about what's going on than what I know. So I don't
>> think I'm qualified to be against Google's decisions :)
>>
>> Marina
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:13 PM, <yogesh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The only way Google could imitate that is if they don't allow the OEMs
>>>> and Carriers to change anything on the versions of Android they ship their
>>>> devices with.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well Google should take he risk. Don't allow manufacturer to alter it's
>>> base android. You said that most OEM won't use Android. What would they do?
>>>
>>> Everyone knows what happened to Symbian (Nokia), Bada (Samung),
>>> Blackberry. Android is in demand. And no one can replace it at least not in
>>> another 10 years.
>>>
>>> I don't know about "Marketing" thing. But I know what happened to other
>>> OS. What are your opinions about it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 18 August 2017 00:54:20 UTC+5:30, Marina Cuello wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The difference, I believe, is more in the maturity of the hardware.
>>>>
>>>> In the PC/laptop world, there is already a lot of standards on relation
>>>> on how the hardware interfaces are made. Most devices are mostly the same,
>>>> or at least "have to" respond to the same interfaces, so their drivers are
>>>> the only thing that need to be added. And Windows in phones is sold only in
>>>> a few devices; the relation is more similar to iPhone/iOs that to what
>>>> Android's market is and it's not comparable.
>>>>
>>>> The only way Google could imitate that is if they don't allow the OEMs
>>>> and Carriers to change anything on the versions of Android they ship their
>>>> devices with.
>>>>
>>>> If they could try to enforce that, most OEMs would decide not to use
>>>> Android, because they WANT to make things different visually, and because
>>>> they NEED to optimise stuff on relation with their hardware.
>>>>
>>>> The solution Google found is to put more and more functionality into
>>>> the Google Play Services app and other independent apps. That way sometimes
>>>> they can force changes on most devices. That's the closest they can get to
>>>> an "OTA" update without alienating the OEMs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:46 PM, <yogesh...@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1) Android release updates.
>>>>> 2) Manufacturer alter those updates.  (Of course Android removed
>>>>> hardware level in Android 8)
>>>>>
>>>>> Why can't Google release all updates via OTA just like Microsoft do
>>>>> for its PC and Mobile systems?
>>>>>
>>>>> Android is very mature by now. Billions of users are using it but it
>>>>> doesn't have OTA update feature.
>>>>>
>>>>> Android requirement is less than 1 GB. But our 4GB handset gets old in
>>>>> one or two year. Because Manufacturer doesn't release New android version
>>>>> on old devices.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't Google solve this problem?
>>>>>
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